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US Under Secretary John Bolton testifying before Congressional Committee

Bush Official Denies, Admits, Denies Musharraf Knew About Nuclear Sales

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WASHINGTON: A top Bush Administration official has conceded, albeit reluctantly, that Pakistan’s General Pervez Musharraf might have been aware of the nuclear sales by Dr. AQ Khan's network to Iran, Libya and North Korea.

Questioned by a House of Representatives Committee about whether there was evidence that General Musharraf was complicit in nuclear sales by Dr. AQ Khan's network to Iran, Libya and North Korea, the official said that while General Musharraf might have been aware of such sales, he might have been politically unable to stop them because Dr. Khan was "an icon in Pakistan -the father of the nuclear weapons program."

In testimony on March 30 before the House International Relations Committee in Washington, Under Secretary of State, John R. Bolton, said Iran had a "massive deception and denial campaign" aimed at preventing international inspectors from uncovering that country's "robust" biological, chemical and nuclear weapons programs.

"It is clear that Iran draws from many of the same networks that supplied Libya with nuclear technology, components and materials, including the AQ Khan black market network," he said, referring to the network run by the father of Pakistan's nuclear weapons program. Mr. Bolton called destroying the network through sanctions and other steps "a priority objective of the United States."

Mr. Bolton said he believed that President Musharraf might finally have been emboldened by the revelations last year of Iran's illicit nuclear activities and Libya's decision to renounce weapons of mass destruction.

Mr. Bolton, bristled visibly when committee Democrats suggested that he and other administration officials were overlooking Pakistani proliferation activities because of that state's cooperation in fighting terrorism. "If we had information about complicity of top levels of the government of Pakistan, we would act on it," Mr. Bolton said.

The New York Times has reported that the Bush administration is imposing sanctions on 13 foreign companies and individuals in seven countries that it says have sold equipment or expertise that Iran could use in nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs, according to administration and congressional officials.

The sanctions will prohibit the companies and individuals from exporting goods to or receiving contracts or assistance from the United States and will prevent American companies from trading with them for two years. Officials said the sanctions were being imposed under the Iran Nonproliferation Act of 2000, which prevents sales of goods and technology that Iran could use to acquire long-range missiles and unconventional weapons.

Both the House and Senate foreign relations committees on April 1 received from the administration copies of a classified 30-page report that describes such trade and names the entities being penalized, Congressional officials confirmed, the NY Times said.

In his testimony on March 30, Bolton was grilled by congressmen from both the sides. The Committee was chaired by Rep. Henry Hyde (R-IL). The subject of testimony was: The Bush administration and nonproliferation: A new strategy emerges.

Following are the important exchanges between the committee members and Mr. John R. Bolton, Under Secretary for Arms Control and International Security, US Department of State:

Rep. Henry Hyde (R-IL): Much attention has been focused on the revelations of the stunningly extensive nature of the trafficking in nuclear technology and materials by members of Pakistan's nuclear programs. These revelations, combined with invaluable information from Libya's program, have torn the cover from the international black market in nuclear technology and know-how, which, prior to this inside information, had been only sketchily understood.
What's usually overlooked, however, is the administration's success in persuading the leaders of Pakistan to take active measures to interrupt the proliferation of nuclear materials and assistance that has metastasized unchecked from that country for many years. We're now in the process of unraveling that network and preventing the horrors its commerce would otherwise bring into being.

Rep. Tom Lantos (D-CA): Libya's decision to give up its nuclear weapons development program has made an unprecedented contribution to the security of the Middle East and North Africa, and to a broader region. The potentially destabilizing presence of nuclear weapons in Libya is no longer a threat. But perhaps more importantly, the documents and materials turned over by Tripoli to the United States brought to light the shadowy truth behind the massive international nuclear black market. Using this evidence, we were finally able to prove that Pakistan was the key player in the international nuclear trade. Using this black market, the leadership of Iran, North Korea and other rogue regimes aggressively pursued their nuclear ambitions at the expense of international stability and American national security.

Rep. Gary Ackerman (D-NY): I'm truly astonished by Secretary Powell's announcement two weeks ago that the president would designate Pakistan as a major non-NATO ally. I've always recognized Pakistan's support for us in the war on terror; realize that President Musharraf has taken great risks to fight al Qaeda and the Taliban. But I think that the consistent waiver of our democracy-related sanctions against Pakistan and the provision of over $2 billion in assistance in the last two years, plus the president's request for another $700 million to Pakistan for Fiscal Year 2005, clearly already demonstrates our great support.

What is truly amazing is that, in addition to giving Pakistan a pass on democratic development, the administration is also giving them a pass on proliferating nuclear technology. It is clear to me, and I think it should be clear to anyone else, that Pakistan sold nuclear technology and probably nuclear weapons designs to terrorist states, even those in the evil axis.

Is it not the administration's view that one of the gravest threats to our national security is that terrorist organizations will acquire weapons of mass destruction to use against us? And wouldn't one of the chief sources of such technology be by state sponsors of terror? Isn't this why we went to war in Iraq?

But not a word of condemnation has passed our collective lips when it comes to Pakistan's nuclear proliferation activities. And instead of getting to the bottom of AQ Khan's nefarious enterprise, the president proposes to make it easier for Pakistan to acquire sensitive US technology. Hasn't Pakistan already demonstrated that they can't control their own technology, let alone ours?

This double standard with regard to Pakistan makes a mockery of our non-proliferation efforts around the world.

Mr. Chairman, I've introduced legislation that would change the way the president can designate major non-NATO allies by requiring that he certify that the designee is a democracy, and that the country participates with the United States in specified international agreements or arrangements that restrict the export of chemical, biological, nuclear and other weapons, delivery systems and related dual-use components. And I would urge our colleagues to take a look and see if they'd be willing to co-sponsor that bill.

I do have a series of questions, and I'll wait for the appropriate time and look forward to hearing from Secretary Bolton, who is to be praised for his exemplary public service.

Rep. Ackerman: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Secretary, has the president made a determination of whether or not the Symington or Glenn sanctions under the Arms Export Control Act apply for the government of Pakistan generally, whether it applies to specific officials of the government of Pakistan, or entities in Pakistan?

Mr. Bolton: In connection with what transactions, congressman?

Rep. Ackerman: With AQ Khan.

Mr. Bolton: The decision about the policies the government of Pakistan is pursuing on AQ Khan is one that we have been considering very carefully, and I would say, Mr. Ackerman, to go back to your opening statement, this turns on a fundamental evaluation as to who in Pakistan was responsible for AQ Khan's activities. Based on the information we have now, we believe that the proliferation activities that Mr. Khan confessed to recently -- his activities in Libya, in Iran and North Korea, and perhaps elsewhere -- were activities that he was carrying on without the approval of the top levels of the government of Pakistan. That is the position that President Musharraf has taken, and we have no evidence to the contrary. I don't --

Rep. Ackerman: Mr. Secretary --

Mr. Bolton: I don't -- maybe I can just finish, because I think it's important to have the factual record out here as we know it. I don't have any doubt that there were officials in the employ of the government of Pakistan -- perhaps at Khan Research Laboratories, perhaps in the military -- who participated in Khan's network and probably enriched themselves just as Khan himself did. But the issue is the extent to which, if at all, the top levels of the government of Pakistan were involved in his activities. And, as I say, we have no evidence to that effect. And that is why, if I may say so, Khan's activities are more frightening than if they had been backed by the government, because it shows that independent of state sponsorship or approval, element of this black market in weapons of mass destruction can nonetheless be extraordinarily successful.

Rep. Ackerman: Well, I thank you for answering your question. I'll repeat my question. But, in response to your answer, I would just like to say you question whether or not government officials in Pakistan were complicit in the actions of AQ Khan or the laboratory. It seems to even the most casual -- or should -- most casual of observers that you cannot use the military transport plans of Pakistan to deliver that kind of materiel and program to North Korea and others without the implicit support of the army of Pakistan. And it seems to me that we know the name of the guy who was the head of the army of Pakistan then.

I can understand the reluctance in this issue, which, you know, we're damned if we do and damned if we don't. We want to make sure that we have a government and an administration in Pakistan which is supportive of us and our efforts against terrorists and terrorism, and we do right now, in now President Musharraf, and we don't want to do anything that destabilizes him.
On the other hand, it seems to me that the good work which the chairman appropriately cites, and you have reiterated, and I have previously called the whipping boy theory -- you grab Iraq by the collar and go "whack, whack, whack," and turn to some other regimes and say, "Let that be a lesson to you." And Libya has fallen into the camp of "Oops, we don't want to go through that." But the good work that that has produced, seems to me, gets completely wiped out by saying we will turn a blind eye to anybody who has or does these kinds of things and supplies this -- this program, weapons, to rogue states or nations. My question --

Mr. Bolton: Well, that might be the case --

Rep. Ackerman: -- let me just -- let me just repeat my question, in case you missed it, the question was, has the president made a determination of whether Symington or Glenn, applied to Pakistan in general, officials or entities thereof?

Mr. Bolton: At -- with respect to the Khan transactions, the answer to that is no. And at this point, the evidence is not there to support it. You know, you have to --

Rep. Ackerman: When can we expect --

Mr. Bolton: You have --

Rep. Ackerman: -- that such a determination to be made?

Mr. Bolton: Well, we are continuing to seek information about exactly what Khan's activities were over time --

Rep. Ackerman: Do you think that -- do you think that the --

Mr. Bolton: -- because it's extremely important --

Rep. Ackerman: -- designation of Pakistan as a major non-NATO ally should wait until we've made that determination?

Mr. Bolton: No, because I think that determination was based on other factors. I mean, we have been saying to the Pakistanis for quite some time that --

Rep. Ackerman: So, let me just --

Mr. Bolton: Can I finish my answer this time? We believe --

Rep. Ackerman: Yeah, but try my question.

Mr. Bolton: Okay. I did answer your question. We believe that it's very important in the case of Pakistan or others to act on the basis of what we know to be the case. You can make assumptions about the use of military aircraft in Pakistan. Those assumptions at some point have to be grounded in facts. And the understanding we have is that Khan research laboratories had extraordinary autonomy and quite likely could use military aircraft for purposes that others in the military would not necessarily know the purpose of because of compartmentation of the information -- (inaudible) --

Mr. Bolton: If we had information about complicity of top levels of the government of Pakistan, we would act on it. At this point, there's no such information.

Rep. Ackerman: So, with charges out there, with allegations made, with the international community watching this very carefully, with those who we want to put on notice that we will not tolerate nuclear programs, with the verdict and the jury still out on whether or not Pakistan and entities thereof were complicit in this, and prior to our knowledge, as you say, of all of the facts being on the table as yet as to whether or not we are going to impose sanctions on Pakistan, under either Symington or Glenn, the president nonetheless should declare them a major non-NATO ally absent the facts?

Mr. Bolton: I think -- I think it's entirely appropriate to declare Pakistan a major non-NATO ally for reasons unrelated to this issue. And I just want to say this one more time -- and I can't say anything more in an open session -- we have watched the Khan network carefully. It has not escaped us that Khan is a Pakistani, and we have watched his actions inside Pakistan carefully as well. We have no information that contradicts what President Musharraf has assured us, and that is that the top levels of the government of Pakistan are not implicated in these transactions. Now, one of the things that President Musharraf made clear was that his pardon of Khan was conditional. It was conditional on two things. First, that all of Khan's proliferation activities stop. And second, that he cooperate fully with the government of Pakistan in its ongoing investigation. We believe those conditions are currently being met.

Rep. Delahunt: And I think some of the questions that have been posed regarding our awareness of what Mr. Khan was doing haven't been really fully answered. You indicated in earlier testimony today that there was no evidence to indicate that Mr. Khan had any involvement with top officials of the Pakistani government. Is that correct?

Mr. Bolton: No, what I said was that there is no evidence that the top officials of the Pakistani government were complicit in or approved his proliferation activities.

Rep. Delahunt: Complicit in or approved. Then what are we -- let me use the word "aware." Would you also include in that statement that they were unaware of those activities?

Rep. Rohrabacher: All right. And what about in Pakistan? During the last administration, we now find that during the entire time of the last administration, Pakistan was deeply involved in developing its nuclear weapons, and although they administration did -- the last administration, you know, did actually take some steps, but then Pakistan then began -- became a proliferator rather than just a developer during the last administration. So, in Libya, in Korea, in Pakistan during the last administration -- and, I might add, if you look back I think you'll see the same is true for Iran -- in all of these situations, when comparing this administration to the perfect administration, it doesn't look too good, but when you compare it to the last administration, I think we get about an A-plus-plus.

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